No Sangha due to Dalai Lama’s ban, and general ignorance issues

Dear Ven. Geshe-la, Gen-la Khyenrab, Gen Rigpa, and Gen Jampa,

I am writing you this Christmas Eve, to sincerely thank Geshe-la and the others of you that I have had teachings with, and also Gen-la Khyenrab, for teaching valid dharma.

I would like to point out, as this is the 2nd year my family has been completely cut off from all Sangha, that we will not be attending OSG tomorrow.  As I wrap presents for my 5 year old daughter (6 in January) I think, well, I want to give her the real helpful stuff— not just material objects.  Unfortunately since we became NKT people we were shut off from the rest of Buddhism, more or less.  Then, when I told that we (truthfully, before all the Buddhas of the three times and 10 directions, yes I am 100 percent truthful) have a lot of Dalailama,anti-Shugdens in the NKT, we have had no contact at all with anyone, though I did try.  We have been shunned and ostracised from our supposedly Shugden community for saying we have Dalai Lama people.  That’s odd, if we are supposed to be an open democracy.

Everyone came up with different excuses, but none would hold up under scrutiny if they were being slightly Buddhist or truthful.  They are all treating us very badly.  I do not care at all about seeing them from just my own personal wanting to be around people— they have treated us so badly I doubt I will ever trust them again.  However, the issue I would like to raise is that I am completely shut off, no one knows I exist, as a Shugden Buddhist, but thinks the imposters represent the NKT.  Furthermore, it is destroying the cohesion of the community, because we cannot be accepted if I spoke the truth, and my daughter and I neither one have good access to dhama (Rigpa’s FP correspondence often has a substitute who is clearly a fake NKT (really a Dalai Lama person).

So I just wanted to say, that this is no way to allow your school to be represented.  I consider myself a Kagyu at this point, who has a heart commitment to Dorje Shugden.  I can’t consider myself Buddhist otherwise, because the NKT is mostly following the Dalai Lama, who is not a Buddhist, but a cult leader.

Ven. Geshe-la, I hope you will do something.  I consider the treatment people who are genuine will receive at your school will not be as you intended it, but they will be treated worse than dogs and outcastes by the Dalai Lama take-over crew.

I am including, for the sake of contrasting hypocrisy of some “NKT” students/teachers, Geshe-la’s holiday wishes vs. Kelsang Choki’s order for my silence and Steve Cowing, who I am assured speaks with Geshe-la’s voice, order for my never to write him either.

I think your lineage is a fake right now, because it follows the Dalai Lama.

Best,

Kelly Inman

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From: NKT Office <info@kadampa.org>
Date: Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 5:55 AM
Subject: Letter from NKT Education Council
To: kinman26@gmail.com

To Kelly Inman

So far you have written for over 2 years to Gen Jampa, Gen Rigpa, Gen-la Khyenrab, myself and many other people criticising the NKT’s GSD Gen-la Dekyong, without saying one single truthful word. Your letters are filled with your own hallucinations. The NKT has over 1000 Dharma Centres throughout the world and all the people of these Dharma Centres are our witnesses to prove that Gen-la Dekyong is a pure Dharma practitioner especially a sincere Dorje Shugden practitioner. She is the most qualified Dharma Teacher of both sutra and tantra. Her good heart, teachings and her way of showing a good example are unequaled. All NKT people understand this. We can say the same for Gen-la Kunsang. The reason why we did not previously reply to your letters is that we believe from your way writing you appear to have a mental problem so we didn’t want to cause you more suffering.

However now I would like to suggest that you must please stop writing letters like this in the future. We have the collection of all your previous emails. So now you have a choice either please stop writing these kinds of letters or we will pass your previous emails with your information to the police.

Kind regards
Steve Cowing
NKT Education Council

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Kelsang’s Chokyi’s message from two years back, in which she lies, and which was her move to rid her Sangha of Shugdens

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———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Kelly Inman <kinman26@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:10 PM
Subject:
To: Kelsang Chokyi <rt@sddharma.com>
Cc: “Kelsang, Atisha” <KelsangAtisha@gmail.com>

Dear Chokyi,

I told you everything I told Gen-la Dekyong and Gen Jampa; however, you dismissed it and asked me to speak to no one else about it.  I understand about not speaking to the Sangha generally, but if my resident teacher, who is new, will not listen, then of course I will email other lamas within the NKT.

I do not feel we need to discuss this further; this is in Dorje Shugden’s hands, not yours.

Sincerely,

Kelly Inman

Dear Kelly,

Gen Samten, who is the Resident Teacher at KMC NY, gave me good advice this year. He said, “deal with facts not opinions.” It reminded me of the scriptures that say, ” appearances are deceptive and my opinions are unreliable.”

Kelly, if you can prove to me with facts what you are saying is true, I am happy to receive this information and access it. However, I am unwilling to continue to listen to opinions. You have written to Kelsang Dechok, Gen Atisha, Gen Rigpa, Gen Jampa and Gen-la Dekyong on this issue rather than coming to me about it. Please Kelly watch your actions. There are so many facts that you are unaware of about Gregg Lane and Stephanie Gatschet. Facts that are about helping you and the Center thrive.

Dorje Shugden is a wisdom Buddha. Please use your wisdom and rely upon him instead of your opinions which are driving you to try and create disharmony—know that it will not work because Dorje Shugden is protecting this Center and the actions that I am relying upon him to make.

You and Kristen are in my thoughts and prayers. I do hope that we can resolve this so you can come back to the Center. Please present facts. Please discontinue writing others—this issue is between you and me.

With love and the Guru at my heart,
Chokyi

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Kelsang Chokyi

Resident Teacher
Vajrarupini Kadampa Buddhist Center
619.940.5301

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Censure from the VBC Sangha for speaking against zen transmissions & asking to stay with Shugden

Date: Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Subject: Fwd: Hmmm
To: lotusunfolding <lotusunfolding@cox.net>

This one, requests my silence; how can we have a voice if we are all ignoring one another?  Also, it’s not an opinion, when someone reads zen, it’s a fact, and also, we have a Sangha who intentionally stick their heads in the sand and won’t help one another, against the Bodhistattva vow and the heart committment.

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:22 PM, <lotusunfolding@cox.net> wrote:

Hi Kelly,

I respectfully request that you do not send me any more of these letters.
First of all, this is your opinion/experience and really none of my business.
Secondly, as your Sangha sister, I am encouraging you to turn your mind to Dharma and not risk creating future negative karma by criticizing the sincere practitioners and teachers of this precious path.
I do hope that you will take Geshle’s instructions into your heart and clear all obstacles to your own practice and progress along the path to full Enlightenment. This is my wish for you.

Love,
Kathleen

—- Kelly Inman <kinman26@gmail.com> wrote:
> November 13, 2013
>
> Dear Gen-la Dekyong, Gen-la Kunsang, Gen Rigpa, and Gen Jampa,
>
> I have noticed, I have mentioned in several letters sent over the last
> year, a very serious Dharma situation at the KMC San Diego.  We had very
> perfect and pure dharma transmissions from Gen Atisha; we one phone call
> from England (Gen-la Dekyong) and  we have been in serious dharma decline
> ever since; when I found out Atisha was leaving, I was concerned, since it
> seemed sudden and strange, and illogical that he wasn’t doing a good job.
>  I wasn’t worried once I found out we would have Rigpa, because he also
> gives pure transmissions.  However, we also had Amy, who seemed convinced
> we were giving up Shugden, and put in people who taught all kinds of weird
> zen rime tao mixes, and also taught these herself.  My understanding is
> that Gen-la Dekyong believes Amy Atisha and Rigpa to all be
> interchangeable; if that is true, then I have to say that to me that is
> absolutely lacking in wisdom.
>
> I get the impression that it is really easy to remove perfect teachers, and
> replace them with what insincere or misguided people want;  however, it is
> next to impossible to fix anything.  We seem to get rid of perfection so
> easily and then wallow in corrupt dharmas for years on end.  Please, I am
> embarrassed that this Center in the county I was born is so corrupt; I
> understand I was committing many heinous acts in past lives, but really,
> could we not show some wisdom in distinguishing good and qualified teachers
> from people like Amy Peng?   Gen-la, this is taking really too long to fix
> this place and surrounding communities.  It has passed the point of
> ridiculous; if you are thinking people like Gregg Lane will look around and
> feel ashamed of themselves for what they have done, please think again.
>  Gregg has little subtlety, but just wants to end our dharma.
>
>  I understand that we are not to discuss the presence of the Dalai Lama
> people, even if they are taking over our Centers.  I don’t agree this is a
> good idea and am telling you that for the sake of all living beings you
> must amend that policy.  Yes, I understand that generally we don’t want to
> be seen as witchhunting the Dalai Lama people who show up, but let’s
> intersect a little with reality; we have total nonsense in pretending that
> their background and lack of sincerity wouldn’t matter if they teach.
>  Also, if a whole bunch of them show up to one Center and try to vote out a
> teacher, we have to place a safeguard that they can’t just do that.  If
> it’s going to be a democracy, perhaps it needs to be sort of a more
> representative one; in the U.S., we used to have people who would go and
> get people drunk, and talk them into voting for a candidate, and take the
> person to the polls.  For this reason, the bars are all closed on election
> day.  In a similar way, we don’t need to get a bunch of Dalai Lama people
> who show up, with some loose affiliation with our Center, and can convince
> you so easily that our teacher is bad; they don’t need to be able to vote
> out our authentic dharma so easily.
>
> I don’t know why none of you will communicate about this, but we have
> passed the point where I can or my kid can go to your San Diego temple
> until we get back a Shugden staff.  It’s not bodhisattva activity to help
> continue this charade.  Would I take my daughter to an FPMT temple?  No, I
> would take her to a cave a give her a picture of Buddha first and pray for
> enlightenment; the FPMT temple I wouldn’t set foot inside.  Basically what
> you have at KMC San Diego resembles the staff at an FPMT Center; the
> curriculum is similar: the Dalai Lama loves to mix dharma because he wants
> everyone to mix the dharma, and then, unable to distinguish one school from
> another, we would all be under his control.  I never took him as a lama,
> and won’t be taking him as one.  You have let dharma degeneration go past
> the point of nonsense.
>
> When it comes to popular dharmas over actual ones, obviously the Buddha
> taught to us to attain full Buddhahood for the sake of all living beings,
> not just hang around reading what makes us popular.  So, if we think that
> the Dalai Lama, Deepak Chopra, etc are popular authors on spirituality,
> well that’s fine.  I think we got rid of pure doctrine in San Diego though,
> because it was too boring or something?  I have never been bored in any
> Kadampa teaching, including Gen Atisha’s.  I have been occasionally bored
> in other dharma teachings (other lineages), but I didn’t consider that the
> lama’s fault but rather that maybe I was obstructed in understanding the
> subject matter.  I don’t think the problem was that Gen Atisha was boring;
> rather, the problem was that he’s not going to give up the Shugden
> practice.  Since he does the Shugden practice, it’d be unlikely that he’d
> suddenly think that he’d really love to follow the advice of the Dalai
> Lama, mix dharmas and make sure our Shugden practice gets wiped out.
>
> After all of these terrible things happened to our Sangha, and started
> getting worse and worse under Chokyi, we also had the announcement that the
> teacher training program only required 2 years practice.  Geshe-la is
> supposed to be backing this?  Are you sure, because I don’t think he would
> really want to continue it; maybe you are supposed to realize what a bad
> idea that is in this lineage in particular.  To me, only two years sounds
> insane, especially since we get so many people that say they’ve been
> practicing for two years, when maybe all they mean is that they showed up
> to prayers for world peace for a few months 2 years ago.  I think Geshe-la
> probably didn’t mean it was a wonderful idea, especially not if the people
> applying might not really be with us; perhaps you misunderstood him; at any
> rate please check with him again.  Also, I doubt he meant that you were
> supposed to believe all of them; the Dalai Lama ones will lie to us, as the
> always do around here.
>
> In closing, the thing they are after is our practice; they want to wipe
> Shugden off the earth.  Why are we pretending otherwise?  Why are we
> pretending we have all these sincere people over here?  They are not
> sincere to our lineage, but will lie to us (please see the former writings
> of the past few days) because they think it is virtuous to end our school.
>  Please, you can get rid of Atisha in one phone call, but you can’t require
> sincere Shugden people to replace the members of the coup?  Please, death
> is approaching for all of us, and the cycling of suffering is spinning
> endlessly; we do not have more time to waste this life pretending that some
> people are not lying and aren’t with the Dalai Lama; we need pure dharma or
> there is no way out of samsara.
>
> Please, it’s time to fix the dharma.  No more pretending.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kelly Inman

Letter from AD at VBC: driving out the Shugden Sangha, member by member

Please note:
  My daughter had gone to puja for 3 and 1/2 years, and we were asked not to come back right after I sent a third letter to the NKT “Shugden is a Buddha.” There is a letter on this site backing my daughter’s coming to puja; it was just a completely bogus reason— a way to get rid of the Shugden community by the anti-Shugdens at VBC.

u, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Angela Rosenau <admin@sddharma.com> wrote:

Dear Kelly,
It is a most beautiful wish for you to want Kristen to receive imprints by coming to Tsog pujas.  However, in accordance with NKT-IKBU protocol, which is intended to most benefit the community at large, “children may attend empowerments, teachings, and pujas if they can remain still and very quiet so as not to distract others.” At this time, Kristen is at a very active stage in her growth and, accordingly, may not attend pujas. She will, of course, quickly grow past this stage and be happily welcomed back to pujas. In the meantime, as a single mom needing blessings to most benefit you and Kristen, you are always welcome to come to pujas. Louise has kindly offered to babysit Kristen during a WFJ with Tsog or you can plan and budget in a babysitter if you wish on other Tsog days.
Please understand that although Kristen has come to pujas in the past and video link has been set up, the Center is growing and the foyer and other areas are no longer places where you and Kristen can watch via video link. Hopefully, it can bring you joy to adapt to this change and rejoice in knowing that more people are coming to VKBC to meet the Dharma.
t would be deeply appreciated, if you can try to happily accept this and work with VKBC for the benefit of others while rejecting harmful minds that may bring disharmony. In particular, please consider accepting the various ways that VKBC has offered to help you and Kristen connect with the Buddhas.
Please remember, this is all temporary and such momentary challenges can bring the most profound realizations and merit when we sincerely practice cherishing others and patient acceptance.
Most Sincerely,



Angela Rosenau
Administrative Director
Vajrarupini Buddhist Center

———–My response———————–
From: Kelly Inman <kinman26@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: policy for children attending puja
To: Angela Rosenau <admin@sddharma.com>
Cc: Kelsang Chokyi <rt@sddharma.com>Hello Angela,

  Thank you for your response.  I am not clear how we are unable to accommodate a video link in the foyer via skype, whether the Center is growing or not.  I have been told by Chokyi not to write the lineage and also not to discuss all the issues I had with people discussing the Dalai Lama with me, trying to dissuade me from VBC, or directly reading zen books from the podium, or I am causing disharmony.  I am causing disharmony even if these people teach our classes and run our temple?  You are accusing those with the heart commitment of causing disharmony, because we will not allow our lineage to degenerate or say nothing when it does.  The Dalai Lama accuses our lineage of causing disharmony as well, but it is only because we want to practice purely and not involve ourselves in political motives.
  The decision to suddenly ban my daughter from LPP, and be unwilling to accommodate us via skype in the foyer, which we have done sometimes in the past, or to simply move a bookshelf to unblock the video link, does seem political, rather than spiritual.  It comes on the heels of our return to puja immediately following a two month leave of absence, at which time I expressed concerns to Gen-la and Gen Jampa via email concerning the spiritual purity of our lineage.  It seems like an RT decision, since she was the one who insisted that Kristen be in the gompa for LPP, and is now basing the new ban on having received an alleged complaint.  When we went out into the community room, 5 feet from the gompa door, obviously that is close enough to hear movement.  She wasn’t actually running around; if that looks imminent I have always taken her outside.  The complaint couldn’t have reasonably come from the AD or the EPC, as neither Angela or Stephanie were at LPP that evening.   As previously stated, since Tom, Louise, Kathleen, and Lora Driscoll all asked us back to puja, and since they combined with Kristen and me form a majority of people that attend LPP on a regular basis, then it seems that we mustn’t be bothering the normal practioners from the foyer.  It does seem that the RT is retaliating against me for having brought up some issues to the lineage.  My daughter is not noisy at puja; not when we are by video link in the foyer.  If there is not a willingness to accommodate Long Protector puja for a child who has come regularly since infancy, and since there is a majority of people who attend that monthly who asked us both back, then I would have to say that it is VBC that is not willing to accommodate  rather than me or my child.  I actually will practice LPP with her at home, as we have done in the two months leave of absence we took; I have a copy of Melodious Drum from Tharpa on my computer.
  Budgeting for babysitters only works if there is enough money to budget from; even without paid babysitting, my daughter and I barely have enough money to make it month to month; I am on Social Security disability, and we have very little money toward basic necessities like food and clothing.  Furthermore, I can’t see any reason to leave someone, who does behave, as Lora’s letters both indicate, under normal circumstances in the foyer.  It does seem like Chokyi’s absolutely insisting that Kristen remain in the gompa for LPP, and instigating a ban just 5 days before Jampa’s arrival, claiming noise, is simply an attempt to severe the ties of my daughter to the practicing Shugden Sangha; she is welcome in the kid’s class, but the kid’s class has not been run by those with the heart committment to Dorje Shugden since Atisha’s departure.Concerning the Kid’s class, I have already written the NKT with my concerns about the Kid’s class and the current situation at VBC which seems rather unfavorable to those of us who have a heart commitment to Dorje Shugden.
  Asking for teachers to uphold Je Tsongkapa’s doctrine is not disharmonious, nor does it stem from a disharmonious mind; it is rather a mind based on the teachings of Je Tsongkapa.  The claim that I am disharmonious for requesting pure teachings and access to lineage blessings for my daughter in puja, begs the immediate question: disharmonious with whom?  I am in complete harmony with Je Tsongkapa and Dorje Shugden here; I have a heart commitment and a wish to help all living beings by having this tradition continue purely, not with hodgepodge doctrines or people who have spoken directly against our lineage influencing our children.
  We consider ourselves members of the NKT, and I will return to VBC only when the pure Kadam dharma is reasonably restored we are no longer ostracized for our heart commitments to pure Kadam dharma, and the retaliation has ceased. 
  Thank you, Angela, for at least communicating with me.  I remember my daughter and I drove to a White Tara empowerment with Kathleen, that Gen Rigpa while Atisha was still in residence.  May White Tara and Dorje Shugden thoroughly bless you, all of VBC, and all sentient beings.
  Sincerely
  Kelly Inman
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